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		<title>Icon315: raveosity</title>
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		<updated>2010-04-09T22:56:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;raveosity&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:56, 9 April 2010&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 16:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 16:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Has Raveosity become a numeric modifier? I am currently using it in a script, but mafia doesn&#039;t detect raveosity yet. --[[User:Icon315|Icon315]] 22:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>StDoodle at 16:48, 17 March 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-17T16:48:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One recommendation; perhaps we should move the not-logged-in &amp;amp; default values out of the table, and just give a general note saying what they are, since they appear to be the same for each modifier category. I&amp;#039;m holding off on this in case there are some that require looking into / more research; if there&amp;#039;s more than one exception to the category rule, it&amp;#039;s probably best to leave them in the table. If it turns out there aren&amp;#039;t many exceptions, we&amp;#039;ll probably want to take them out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One recommendation; perhaps we should move the not-logged-in &amp;amp; default values out of the table, and just give a general note saying what they are, since they appear to be the same for each modifier category. I&amp;#039;m holding off on this in case there are some that require looking into / more research; if there&amp;#039;s more than one exception to the category rule, it&amp;#039;s probably best to leave them in the table. If it turns out there aren&amp;#039;t many exceptions, we&amp;#039;ll probably want to take them out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, I have some table templates (available from [[:Category:&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Basic &lt;/del&gt;Templates]]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;**&lt;/del&gt;) that give &quot;cleaner&quot; formatting if desired, but they&#039;re kind of a pain. I dunno if I like them or not*... let me know what you think (for reference, they&#039;re in use on [[Operators]]).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, I have some table templates (available from [[:Category:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Formatting &lt;/ins&gt;Templates]]) that give &quot;cleaner&quot; formatting if desired, but they&#039;re kind of a pain. I dunno if I like them or not*... let me know what you think (for reference, they&#039;re in use on [[Operators]]).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Reason: I couldn&amp;#039;t for the life of me overcome the wiki&amp;#039;s tendency to give just enough padding in between cells that thin borders overlapped; ie, trying to use gray inner-cell borders &amp;amp; a black outer border didn&amp;#039;t completely work, as the outer border was double-thick, with gray inside &amp;amp; black outside. The only time I was able to completely overcome this, the gray inner borders overrode the black outer border (which is how it&amp;#039;s currently set). Appears to be another wiki-formatting issue, but feel free to play with those templates if so inclined.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Reason: I couldn&amp;#039;t for the life of me overcome the wiki&amp;#039;s tendency to give just enough padding in between cells that thin borders overlapped; ie, trying to use gray inner-cell borders &amp;amp; a black outer border didn&amp;#039;t completely work, as the outer border was double-thick, with gray inside &amp;amp; black outside. The only time I was able to completely overcome this, the gray inner borders overrode the black outer border (which is how it&amp;#039;s currently set). Appears to be another wiki-formatting issue, but feel free to play with those templates if so inclined.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Hmmm, they weren&#039;t there... I&#039;ll go add them.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 16:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 16:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>StDoodle: Created page with &#039;Me likey! My original plan was to have a page linked to in the ash main page section for the mafia commands for accessing raw modifier, which would link to a page such as this. I…&#039;</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-17T16:46:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;Me likey! My original plan was to have a page linked to in the ash main page section for the mafia commands for accessing raw modifier, which would link to a page such as this. I…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Me likey! My original plan was to have a page linked to in the ash main page section for the mafia commands for accessing raw modifier, which would link to a page such as this. IMO that&amp;#039;s still the way to go, and it&amp;#039;ll be nice to have this page ready to go when such happens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One recommendation; perhaps we should move the not-logged-in &amp;amp; default values out of the table, and just give a general note saying what they are, since they appear to be the same for each modifier category. I&amp;#039;m holding off on this in case there are some that require looking into / more research; if there&amp;#039;s more than one exception to the category rule, it&amp;#039;s probably best to leave them in the table. If it turns out there aren&amp;#039;t many exceptions, we&amp;#039;ll probably want to take them out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, I have some table templates (available from [[:Category:Basic Templates]]**) that give &amp;quot;cleaner&amp;quot; formatting if desired, but they&amp;#039;re kind of a pain. I dunno if I like them or not*... let me know what you think (for reference, they&amp;#039;re in use on [[Operators]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Reason: I couldn&amp;#039;t for the life of me overcome the wiki&amp;#039;s tendency to give just enough padding in between cells that thin borders overlapped; ie, trying to use gray inner-cell borders &amp;amp; a black outer border didn&amp;#039;t completely work, as the outer border was double-thick, with gray inside &amp;amp; black outside. The only time I was able to completely overcome this, the gray inner borders overrode the black outer border (which is how it&amp;#039;s currently set). Appears to be another wiki-formatting issue, but feel free to play with those templates if so inclined.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Hmmm, they weren&amp;#039;t there... I&amp;#039;ll go add them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 16:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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