Talk:KoLmafia Properties

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This should be rewritten as it's outdated of course. :P Here are new choice adventures (listed by number).

[blah blah blah list of choice adventures - snipped because it was taking up space --Heeheehee 04:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)]

I also recommend putting links to KoLwiki on those choice adventures. --MagiNinjA 18:30, 4 May 2007 (CDT) ------ EDIT: hit the edit button to see a NEAT list. I'm still a n00b so I don't know how to work this, but the list SHOULD look like a real list if you're editing it. I don't feel like adding line breaks here. :) --MagiNinjA 18:31, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

This says, "Part 11". What were parts 1-10? Is this part of something or just an orphaned page? Should it be kept or cut to pieces and split up into other topics? --Bale 08:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

That's from when this was all part of the ASHRM thingy, which itself was moved here from somewhere else. I left this for reference on the talk page, but it doesn't look like we need it. Feel free to look it over, and if you don't find anything useful, nuke away. --StDoodle (#1059825) 20:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

  • If nobody says anything in the next couple of days I'm gonna nuke it. It'll be gone from the front page and everything. --Bale 20:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... we also have List of KoLmafia Properties. Ideally, I'd like one of the two to remain. Probably move that page here (maybe a redirect for preferences as well, or rename willy-nilly). Front page should point at whatever actual page we stick with. I would like to do the following;

  • For choice adventures, point to the main wiki, and give a desc. of how they operate which I believe is
    • 0 = show in browser
    • 1-# of choices in KoL = nth choice button
    • N+1 = complete outfit or mainstat
  • There may be other condensable & wiki-pointable lists, I'm not sure; if so similar to above
  • I'd really like more info on the rest; a lot are pretty obscure. In fact, I'd mark this a high-priority task

Thoughts, suggestions? --StDoodle (#1059825) 21:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, stage 1 is complete; no more duplicates, this page should cover everything. Of course, it needs a lot more info before it becomes useful, but at least it won't be scattered in several locations, now. --StDoodle (#1059825) 02:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

By a lot more info, would you want something like what I did with Modifiers? (I'm not saying I have time for this, just that if this is the case, anyone who wanted to tackle this has a point of reference.) --Heeheehee 04:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

One quick question -- for autoAbortThreshold, would any negative number mean "if autorecovery fails", or just -0.05? I'd think it's any negative number, because it makes more sense intuitively. --Heeheehee 22:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

  • That's almost certainly true. I just know that kolMafia uses -0.05 and never bothered to find out differently. --Bale 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

While knowledge of properties can be quite useful for ASH, I'm not sure I see the logic behind adding this page to said category. If ASH were the only way to change most of these preferences, it would be more understandable, but it isn't even the primary way for most of them. Thoughts? --StDoodle (#1059825) 09:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Mostly properties are used in ash scripting, but I see you point. What category do you think it would be better suited for? Should we create a new one? I like for pages to belong to some category. --Bale 10:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Heh, define "mostly." A good chunk of the properties are choice adventure settings that I'd bet are set 90% of the time through the GUI (mostly 'cause the majority of KoLmafia users are much lighter on their ASH usage than our crowd). Anyway, CLI Commands should definitely get moved out of the ASH section on the main page as well, and these both fall under the ominous "how the heck to we organize the non-ASH portions of KoLmafia" project. I agree it's nice to have categories for as much as possible, and this would definitely qualify. But what should these categories be? Initially I thought of organizing by menu / windows / etc., but a lot of core functionality is accessed multiple ways, so this doesn't really work. This particular one would probably go in a "Settings" category, though I'm not sure what else would be in it. Probably a page for the preference manager, choice adventure tabs, etc. What other categories, though? "Adventuring" should probably apply to a good deal beyond the current ASH functions; no need to break them up, either, as far as I can see. "Communications" perhaps, for kmail / chat stuff. Feel free to add on; and we should probably start some official page for tracking this... hmm... --StDoodle (#1059825) 11:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


Shortcut for checking all the preferences that aren't here (generates wiki code for you, sorted into global and user preferences:

 alias wikiPrefs => ashq buffer page; page.append(visit_url("http://wiki.kolmafia.us/index.php?title=KoLmafia_Properties")); string[string, string] map; file_to_map("defaults.txt", map); foreach i in map {print_html("<b>"+i+":</b>"); foreach j,k in map[i] if(!j.contains_text("choiceAdv") && !page.contains_text(j)) print_html("|-<br>|  "+j+"<br>"+"|  "+k+"<br>|"); print_html("<br>");}
Combing through the results, looks like certain things like badMoonEncounters and sugarCounters and manaBurn preferences would all take up lots of space, but should probably get a mention. Not sure, someone else can play around with the above alias and figure out how to deal with those. --Heeheehee 00:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)