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About 90% of the spam seems to go straight to this talk page, so I've protected it until further notice. Please feel free to ask any questions wherever you think is relevant; if it seems like something that should be moved here, heeheehee or I will take care of it! Thanks for your understanding. --StDoodle (#1059825) 14:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit: this protection applies to new & unregistered users only; those who've been around a while can still post here directly if appropriate.

How long is someone required to be registered before they can edit a protected page? --Bale 03:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like... 4 days? (Man, that took a while to find something even remotely relevant) --Heeheehee 04:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Clarification: Presumably these use the same counter.

Huh, never noticed this edit. I'd thought I'd protected this page so that only admins could edit it, but I guess not. Seems to have worked anyway, though, so... yippee? --StDoodle (#1059825) 12:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit; nevermind, I'm an idiot. Looooong day. :P --StDoodle (#1059825) 12:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Quick Links to Help

The following pages list particular places where we could use some help.

For more information, please see Help:Editing.

Category:Request_For_Information
Category:Needs_Code_Sample

(rewritten & updated) --StDoodle (#1059825) 15:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

2010 April 13

I plan to remove the "Pardon our dust" etc. from the main page soon; I feel we've brought this place up to a reasonably-functional level, and while I'm certainly planning on continuing work on it, I don't think we need the "Under Construction" connotation at this point.

Change will be made very soon unless a compelling argument is made against. --StDoodle (#1059825) 13:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Progress level is almost always going UP now. ^_^ --Bale 01:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Yup, though I'm not sure I want to list it at all in the near future... I dunno. Also, check out User:StDoodle/FakeMain for my oh-so-close attempts at dynamic sub-lists... wee! --StDoodle (#1059825) 02:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice! (It's under "Contributing to the KoLMafia Project", for those who can't find it) --Heeheehee 03:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Progress

Yes, we (StDoodle, fewyn, Grotfang, Alhifar & others) have been putting a lot of work into revamping, updating, and polishing this wiki over the last week or so. But the "Progress Level" on the main page is going down. Why? Simple; there was a lot of cruft, a lot of broken links, a lot of abandoned pages, etc. While most of the users mentioned above have been coming up with new content & standards, fewyn has used his admin super-powers to get rid of the stuff that really shouldn't be here. Please trust that the number of red links is going down, and the amount of content is going up!

But we can still use your help! Please lend a hand on any of the following:

Code Samples: Coming up with sample code that illustrates a given function in a useful way without being overly complicated for the new user is challenging; suggestions & additions that accomplish these goals are in high demand!

Unknown Functions: Quite a few functions are mysterious to me, and possibly others. I have little info on how combat consult functions work, for example. If you can help with a specific function, please add whatever you can to its specific page, talk page, or category page (or use my Talk Page). If you don't feel comfortable with the templating system, don't worry; just add what you can, and someone else can clean it up later. (Note: once the vast majority of pages are set up to standards, I would like to make sure all non-formatted info goes onto discussion pages).

Gruntwork: There are a LOT of pages to add; if you feel comfortable using the templates provided, please go ahead! See Basic Templates for a list of templates used for function pages; there should be enough info there to get started, but if not, please join us in the #kolmafia IRC channel or post questions on my Talk Page.

Note that while I have plans for expanding some functionality of function pages, they don't interfere with getting the work done now; it's all stuff that can be added-in a line or two at a time once such expansions are made.

Note also that, while I've put a bit of work into having an underlying structure for function pages, the rest is rather lacking. Some of the templates could certainly be useful on other pages (CodeSample in particular), but I don't have any "grand plan" for how to organize datatypes, language conventions, etc. But don't worry about it! If the page exists, edit in some more info if it's a subject you're interested in. If you're really hesitant to change what's there, add it to the discussion page for the article. If a page doesn't exist, and you really think it should, don't hesitate to create it. Moving it around later, if deemed necessary, doesn't take any real effort (but do try not to link to a new page from a great deal of places until it's name has been reviewed, please; again, use my Talk Page, this page, or IRC if you desire any guidance).

Also, don't worry about offending me! I may have seemed a bit touchy over the () issue (and I was, but only because of how it impacted FUNCTIONALITY of the wiki), but even then, I'm happier with the eventual compromise than my original plans. And I certainly don't own the place; I'm just trying to help!

All thoughts welcome.

(Updated) --StDoodle 21:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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-== Front Page Article, Updates, and Questions ==
+  | __TOC__
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+==Protected Status==
+About 90% of the spam seems to go straight to this talk page, so I've protected it until further notice. Please feel free to ask any questions wherever you think is relevant; if it seems like something that should be moved here, heeheehee or I will take care of it! Thanks for your understanding. --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 14:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
-I noticed that there does not seem to be an complete guide on datatypes, maps, records, or anything else of the like. Would creating an article on datatypes, constraints, and setups be good? Or should info like that be put into their respective (separate) pages? Another thought also pops to mind; if the wiki were to have a "Beginner's Guide to ASH Scripting" tutorial (similar to the one on KoLMafia's sourceforge, but updated) things like this would fit in it well. Just a thought. [[User:Out of practice|Out of practice]] 04:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+Edit: this protection applies to new & unregistered users only; those who've been around a while can still post here directly if appropriate.
-'''EDIT:''' Also, what should be the procedure for us to follow for linking a function's short description (in one of the front-page articles) with its own (completed) page? I just finished an extensive [[map_to_file()]] page (in more detail than you'd expect), and a slightly-less-awesome (but still working) [[floor()]] and [[file_to_map()]] page, and was wondering how I should link them for the benefit of others (who wouldn't naturally search for its own page). [[Help:Contents]] needs an update with the wiki posting standards as well. Are the admins still around regularly?--[[User:Out of practice|Out of practice]] 07:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+:How long is someone required to be registered before they can edit a protected page? --[[User:Bale|Bale]] 03:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
-== Updating? ==
+::Looks like... [http://wiki.fishcakesmedia.com/MediaWiki_User_Management#Restrict_page_creation 4 days]? (Man, that took a while to find something even remotely relevant) --[[User:Heeheehee|Heeheehee]] 04:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
-Let's get started, guys. Soon enough, I'll have a list of all the functions, which I think should go in a wiki page to (as someone above said) search and link. Also, is there a way to do monospacing with code? --[[User:MagiNinjA|MagiNinjA]] 00:35, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
+::Clarification: Presumably these use the same counter.
-:You can get mono-spaced text by using &lt;code&gt; tags.  For example, using <pre><code>EXAMPLE TEXT</code></pre> produces this as a result.  <code>EXAMPLE TEXT</code>
-:If you need anymore help, just drop me a line on my [[User_talk:Ksumoe|talk page]]. &#151;[[User:Ksumoe|ksumoe]] <sup>([[User_talk:Ksumoe|talk]] &#149; [[Special:Contributions/Ksumoe|contrib]])</sup> 18:35, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
-== Ideas... ==
+Huh, never noticed this edit. I'd thought I'd protected this page so that only admins could edit it, but I guess not. Seems to have worked anyway, though, so... yippee? --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 12:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
-These are my ideas that I have floating around in my head:
+Edit; nevermind, I'm an idiot. Looooong day. :P --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 12:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
-# A template to put all the relevant information about a function into a table (with proper colored backgrounds and such)
-## I can do this; I just need to know what information is 'relevant'.
-# Move this type of discussion to the Community Portal.  Right now the CP is just a bunch of links (we can make a 'links' page and add it to the sidebar if needed).
-# An overhaul of the main page.  Someone said that they don't like the 'portal' type of look, but that kind of look has become the ''de facto'' standard for wikis, as it is the most popular.  I'll pound out a rough draft on a subpage of my user space.
-# Creation of a template structure.  Templates for requesting deletion, protection, etc.  That way non-sysop flagged users can 'tag' pages [[Talk:Bad title|such as this]] for deletion.
-# Logo!  'Cause we need to be cool like that.
-# Define a category structure.  Do it now before too many pages get created.
-Like I said... I'm here to help.  [[User_talk:Ksumoe|Comments]] <!--or below for that matter--> plox.  &#151;[[User:Ksumoe|ksumoe]] <sup>([[User_talk:Ksumoe|talk]] &#149; [[Special:Contributions/Ksumoe|contrib]])</sup> 21:17, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
+==Quick Links to Help==
+The following pages list particular places where we could use some help.
-I added some links on the home page -- hope that helps users find more documentation... :) -Daychilde
+For more information, please see [[Help:Editing]].
-I corrected the Script Repository link to http://www.kolmafia.us from http://www.kolmafia.ua.  ;)  -Regnar
+[[:Category:Request_For_Information]]<br />
+[[:Category:Needs_Code_Sample]]<br />
-== Links to Redirects? ==
+(rewritten & updated) --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 15:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
-While I understand the need for redirect, why are we linking to redirect pages? Why not use <nowiki>[[Page Title|Displayed Text]]</nowiki> links instead?
+== 2010 April 13 ==
+I plan to remove the "Pardon our dust" etc. from the main page soon; I feel we've brought this place up to a reasonably-functional level, and while I'm certainly planning on continuing work on it, I don't think we need the "Under Construction" connotation at this point.
+Change will be made very soon unless a compelling argument is made against.  --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 13:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-== Protection ==
+*Sounds good to me. Progress level is almost always going UP now. ^_^ --[[User:Bale|Bale]] 01:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
-Seriously, protect the front page. This is getting completely destroyed by spam [[User:80.189.248.109|80.189.248.109]] 12:05, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
-Is $wgSpamRegex set? If not it should be. If it is, it needs updating. Spam storming in like the flood! -divinewind420
+Yup, though I'm not sure I want to list it at all in the near future... I dunno. Also, check out [[User:StDoodle/FakeMain]] for my oh-so-close attempts at dynamic sub-lists... wee! --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle (#1059825)]] 02:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
-Articles on the subject
+Nice! (It's under "Contributing to the KoLMafia Project", for those who can't find it) --[[User:Heeheehee|Heeheehee]] 03:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
-http://nothing.tmtm.com/archives/2571
-http://wiki.evernex.com/index.php?title=Blocking_Spam_in_Mediawiki
--divinewind420
-== Current wiki layout ==
+== Wiki Progress ==
-I was just curious if we could get the current wiki main page layout centered? As in simply putting <pre> <center> </center> </pre> around the main text.
---[[User:ZammyWarrior|ZammyWarrior]] 16:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)
-What do you mean? And please sign your comments --[[User:Fewyn|Fewyn]] 10:59, 6 December 2007 (PST)
+Yes, we ([[User:StDoodle|StDoodle]], [[User:fewyn|fewyn]], [[User:Grotfang|Grotfang]], [[User:Alhifar|Alhifar]] & others) have been putting a lot of work into revamping, updating, and polishing this wiki over the last week or so. But the "Progress Level" on the main page is going down. Why? Simple; there was a lot of cruft, a lot of broken links, a lot of abandoned pages, etc. While most of the users mentioned above have been coming up with new content & standards, [[User:fewyn|fewyn]] has used his admin super-powers to get rid of the stuff that really shouldn't be here. Please trust that the number of red links is going down, and the amount of content is going up!
-== help with adding images ==
+But we can still use your help! Please lend a hand on any of the following:
+* '''Code Samples''': Coming up with sample code that illustrates a given function in a useful way without being overly complicated for the new user is challenging; suggestions & additions that accomplish these goals are in high demand!
-Hi,
+* '''Unknown Functions''': Quite a few functions are mysterious to me, and possibly others. I have little info on how combat consult functions work, for example. If you can help with a specific function, please add whatever you can to its specific page, talk page, or category page (or use my [[User_talk:StDoodle|Talk Page]]). If you don't feel comfortable with the templating system, don't worry; just add what you can, and someone else can clean it up later. (Note: once the vast majority of pages are set up to standards, I would like to make sure all non-formatted info goes onto discussion pages).
-I tried to add image but I don't know how to do this
+* '''Gruntwork''': There are a LOT of pages to add; if you feel comfortable using the templates provided, please go ahead! See [[:Category:Basic_Templates|Basic Templates]] for a list of templates used for function pages; there should be enough info there to get started, but if not, please join us in the #kolmafia IRC channel or post questions on my [[User_talk:StDoodle|Talk Page]].
-Can anyone be kind to tell me how?
-thanks a lot
+Note that while I have plans for expanding some functionality of function pages, they don't interfere with getting the work done now; it's all stuff that can be added-in a line or two at a time once such expansions are made.
-== Tell me ==
+Note also that, while I've put a bit of work into having an underlying structure for function pages, the rest is rather lacking. Some of the templates could certainly be useful on other pages (CodeSample in particular), but I don't have any "grand plan" for how to organize datatypes, language conventions, etc. But don't worry about it! If the page exists, edit in some more info if it's a subject you're interested in. If you're really hesitant to change what's there, add it to the discussion page for the article. If a page doesn't exist, and you really think it should, don't hesitate to create it. Moving it around later, if deemed necessary, doesn't take any real effort (but do try not to link to a new page from a great deal of places until it's name has been reviewed, please; again, use my [[User_talk:StDoodle|Talk Page]], this page, or IRC if you desire any guidance).
-...please where can I buy a unicorn?
+Also, don't worry about offending me! I may have seemed a bit touchy over the () issue (and I was, but only because of how it impacted FUNCTIONALITY of the wiki), but even then, I'm happier with the eventual compromise than my original plans. And I certainly don't own the place; I'm just trying to help!
-== Test, just a test ==
+All thoughts welcome.
-Hello. And Bye.
+(Updated) --[[User:StDoodle|StDoodle]] 21:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
-== Nice Post ==
+== Archive ==
-Again a fair post. Offer your achates
+Note: All discussion from before the edit-extravaganza of 2010 has been moved [[Talk:Main Page/archive|here]].
-== Building up ==
-As a person that is just starting in this(with no experience at ALL), I was sent to this site and as just a little helping tip, this list lots of functions which should stay that way but it never tells you how to put it all together(or atleast i haven't found the page that does).
---Tipmon1995
-== WJOL Radio's Scott Slocum Interviews Will County Boxing Team ==
-The following is a transcript of WJOL Radio's interview with some of Will County Boxing Gym team members- Billy Boy Thompson, Owner/ Pro Boxer/ Trainer Joseph Awinongya, Donald Myart, and Derek Drey a rising boxing star conducted by Scott Slocum 9AM Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2010. To listen to full interview visit <a href=>www.willcountyboxing.com</a>
-Scott: That will warm you up on this cold morning. Imagine yourself in a hot gym working up a sweat. That is what we all need as the temperature is going to fall to zero before that snow hits about 9PM tonight. Billy 'Boy' Thompson is in the studio with us and he's brought some guests. The 1964 graduate of the Joliet Township high school with an all time record of 110 and 15 with the 95 knockouts. How are you doing sir? Lets make sure the mics are on. Alright, who do you have with us this morning?
-Billy: I have Joseph Awinongya from Ghana, Africa. He's president of our Will County Boxing Gym and Derek Drey. Derek Drey from Joliet, our boxing team and Donald Myart, he's a professional boxer, ex professional boxer-an amateur- boxer and also a broadcaster. We all are on the same page this morning.
-Scott: So, ah you know, as long as it has been since you have been active in the ring, you are still so involved in the sport, and it shows by the people you brought in here today.
-Billy: Well this guy, Joseph, got me involved. I was sitting back in my garage. I retired from the railroad for three years, worked for 31 years, but Joseph got me, got me to come by and and let's get together. So, I went to help him.
-Scott: Well -That Joseph, is that the gentleman here?
-Billy: That's correct he's from Ghana, Africa.
-Joseph: I am from Ghana, I am from Ghana,- but I grew up in Italy. I am (Clears throat) an ex professional boxer. Don King brought me into this country. I came to Joliet, I was in Chicago, I was going to fight a guy in New York. So, I came to Chicago to train with the Polish fighter, because I was fighting the same guy from Poland. So, I came to Chicago and started training in the Windy City Gym and then the fight just turned off..They told me they did not want me any more. I came to Bolingbrook. I see some of the African stores over there, so I said I will stay right here.
-Scott: So you got the youngsters going on now, and you are showing them what you know, huh.
-Joseph: (Smiling) Yeah, I am showing them something. I came to Joliet. I found out that Joliet used to be a boxing town. I was in boxing for a long time and I said what am I going to do to bring some people together to see if we can open a boxing gym. It took me 5 years to start, you know, getting every body together, to see exactly what we want to do, and how to bring this about. Exactly, like Derek Drey, kids who have energy and want to burn it somewhere. So, we opened the boxing gym and so far the boxing gym is doing real good. We have some professionals, three professionals, we signed up a lot of kids. The boxing gym is going wonderful and I was very, very surprised.
-Scott: Now let's back up a moment, you told me Don King brought you to this country?
-Joseph: Yeah, Don King brought me to this country.
-Scott: How many people want to be discovered by Don King!
-Joseph: Yeah.
-Scott: How did you do that?
-Joseph: ...I went back home to Africa ...I was going back to Germany. I was sparring with one ex heavy weight champion and he had his people over there. They saw me, and they said they would like to sign me up, and that was my dream, since I was fighting. That was my dream to come to Don King. So, they saw me and then they brought me, I signed with them. I did really good with them. I don't take nothing away from Don King. He put me in a place that I know that I can do more things than I can do. What ever I want to do.
-To listen to the full interview visit <a href=>www.willcountyboxing.com</a>
-== спасибо за сайт ==
-Всем привет!! Хотелось бы отметить примечательно данного сайт. Уже не однократно тут бывал и не перестаю удивлятся. Прям всё так прилично и здоров, что уходить не хочется. Но всё же пора :) Бай. Ещё заскочу.
-== Why not upload images ? ==
-Hi.
-.I am a beginner.
-Why not upload photos ?
-== Very interesting fact ==
-While the life-expectancy gap between men and women has decreased, it's no secret that men still need to pay more attention to their bodies. Several things work against men. They tend to smoke and drink more than women. They don't seek medical help as often as women. Some men define themselves by their work, which can add to stress.
-There are also health conditions that only affect men, such as prostate cancer and low testosterone. Many of the major health risks that men face – like colon cancer or heart disease - can be prevented and treated with early diagnosis. Screening tests can find diseases early, when they are easier to treat. It's important to have regular checkups and screenings.
-== Proctology department of Kiev region clinical hospital. ==
-Proctology department of Kiev region clinical hospital.
-The treatment of acute hemorrhoids depends on stage of disease.
-Only patients with third degree of acute hemorrhoid should be operated (we perform hemorrhoidectomy).
-www.hemorrhoidno.com

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